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Yeah the part where it was slipping was because of the angle they took and then were trying to get over it, turning the front wheels. The raptor went around it to the left. Id say it was pretty even. The raptor handles the bumps a bit better because the suspension is softer but as he said that means the ram will be much better on road.
 

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I know they said the Raptor was $10K more, but they NEVER get rebates, so it's more like a $20,000 difference. If spinning the tires on a DRIVER ERROR is the main noticeable difference, I'll take my Rebel and buy a $20K boat to pull behind it!
 

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Finally an off-road Rebel test outside of the factory lava field...Gotta love TFLTruck. The Rebel held it's own very well. As pointed out, the one sticky part was purely due to angle of attack.

Still glad I've got the Rebel over the Raptor. He was driving a 2014 Raptor and that was the MSRP for that truck 1-1/2 years ago. Also because they made so few, dealers were asking (and getting) above sticker, the true real life price difference is 20K+. Plus the Rebel does so much more:

1. Better Towing
2. Better on-road performance
3. adjustable height
4. Better Gas Mileage
5. Known Hemi reliability
6. the ZF 8 speed transmission is top quality and dependability
7. Ram Box!
8. Rebel has better breakover angle, departure angle than Raptor (only slightly less approach angle) 2 out 3 in terms of off road clearance (that's a win)

I really think RAM has a winner on their hands. I love mine. (neighbor has the ford raptor...ha ha)
 

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Yeah the part where it was slipping was because of the angle they took and then were trying to get over it, turning the front wheels. The raptor went around it to the left. Id say it was pretty even. The raptor handles the bumps a bit better because the suspension is softer but as he said that means the ram will be much better on road.
not totally true... softer is comfier...and I'm not toallt sure if softer here isn't code for longer travel..
 

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That's a cool video. I know exactly where they were, been up there a bunch of times in my Jeep, but not my Rebel (yet).
 

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Finally an off-road Rebel test outside of the factory lava field...Gotta love TFLTruck. The Rebel held it's own very well. As pointed out, the one sticky part was purely due to angle of attack.

Still glad I've got the Rebel over the Raptor. He was driving a 2014 Raptor and that was the MSRP for that truck 1-1/2 years ago. Also because they made so few, dealers were asking (and getting) above sticker, the true real life price difference is 20K+. Plus the Rebel does so much more:

1. Better Towing
2. Better on-road performance
3. adjustable height
4. Better Gas Mileage
5. Known Hemi reliability
6. the ZF 8 speed transmission is top quality and dependability
7. Ram Box!
8. Rebel has better breakover angle, departure angle than Raptor (only slightly less approach angle) 2 out 3 in terms of off road clearance (that's a win)

I really think RAM has a winner on their hands. I love mine. (neighbor has the ford raptor...ha ha)
That's pretty awesome, at least although it's not something that can truly rival the raptor it does make for a great upgrade from a RAM trim below it, good for those that want something more and willing to pay for it.
 

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Sister-in-law has a raptor. Love the truck, but didn't want to wait and pay 60+ for the 2017 model. I would agree that the rebel wouldn't have had any issues if there was a rear locker on it.
BTW, I walked out with the bumper to bumper lifetime warranty thru Chrysler for 51K on the dot (no ram box for me - like to fit my atv in there with extra room in the bed). Hopefully my pic is big enough you folks to see that I sprayed the lower doors and rocker panels. I also put the nfab 3 step wheel-to-wheel nerf bars on....I'm not seeing great fuel economy in mine after the kn intake install...still around 16mpg. Had the sisters raptor for a couple days and was getting 14 average. Love the 3.92 rear end for acceleration but hate it for the fuel economy. O well.
 

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Nice to know it's not just me struggling to get 15mpgs. But, I still love this thing for towing and weekend-warrior off-roading. Some of the pot holes and wash-outs I hit in my old 1500 that made me cringe, now have me grinning. And towing the wavy highways no longer leaves me sounding like I'm talking into a fan.

I've always loved the style of the Raptor, but thought it a little impractical as an every day truck. The Rebel fits just right.
 

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I've always loved the style of the Raptor, but thought it a little impractical as an every day truck. The Rebel fits just right.
It was the impracticality of the new Raptor that really concreted my decision to go with the Rebel. I'm 5000 miles from the nearest desert environment and dont plan on racing off road. But it is, in my humble opinion, a very nice toy.
 

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That "off road" comparison was a joke just crawling around. You can take a 30k jeep wrangler put a rear locker in it and spank both trucks badly off road. I just bought a rebel. Just over 50k for a awesome truck. I'm going to trick this thing out including a supercharger and really make it my own. The rapture is a very nice truck but way over priced and many compromises you won't have with this rebel. Nice job Ram!
 
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