35W HID's in the Rebel

cstishenko said:

Alright, after some research and work on the subject I think I have the answers.

The Lowbeam bulb is a 9012.
The Highbeam bulb is a 9005.

Dodge has gone to a new wiring system for the 2015 year.
Typical canbus kits from previous years WILL NOT work. You need a kit which is specifically designed for the 2015+

9012 uses the same base as a 9006/9005.
Upgrading to a 9005 or otherwise in the lowbeam would actually be a downgrade. The 9012 is fairly new to the North American market.
A typical lumen rating of a 9012 seems to be around 1875lu. A 9005 is typically 1700lu.
Piaa / Nighthawk etc don't seem to make aftermarket bulbs yet in the 9012.

Most 35W HID kits will be around 2500lu per bulb, but require a complete wiring harness.

Brightsource is one of the first complete kits to market for this application, and I already have mine on order.

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cstishenko said:

I've completely shelved the 9012 HID idea.

This truck goes off road - frequently. Not saying i'm going to swamp the thing, but the truck gets used… And up here in Canada the forests are almost always moist. I refuse to risk the potential for headlight leaks.


I did find that the Putco brand makes 9012 replacement bulbs. They seem to be about the only brand who do. Now I don't know if they are going to be "brighter" per say.. They may however have an aesthetically pleasing colour output.

9012 Putco Halogen Bulbs | 9012 HIR Replacement Halogen Bulbs

I'm considering going with their "mirror white" 4000K. It seems as though the "Nitro Blue" may hinder light output.
I'll be doing the high beam's in 9005 at the same time.

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cstishenko said:

I understand that you've had no issues... But when I say we're offroad a lot... I mean every weekend.
And there is never not water, in any season. We always have water. Constant puddle splashing. We're not crossing streams, or bogging - but you get the picture.

I did not install the HID kit.
The cuts I was going to have to make in the back cover did not leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling. Cutting open the back cover means the potential to leak. I'm good with it sealed just like stock.

Brightsource offers pre-cut and pre-sealed headlight door kits. I may try this again once they are in stock at my local warehouse.

The 9012 bulbs I have coming are HIR specific. And they are definitely not 9006. I know all about the differences.
You are right on the 9011's though - I will be looking for a set of those for my highbeams.

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cstishenko said:

Yes I've seen that before. I've heard these headlights are real prone to water. Moisture, etc.

Any modification to the back door and they are not covering warranty claims...

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johnj said:

Actually somwhere along the way the 2016s started using bi-halogens projectors, with 9005/9005 pairs. While the 2015 projectors were HIR2/9005 sets. (HIR2=9012)

Caught me by surprise, too.

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