[Roomraider]

After much speculation, I've successfully mounted a set of Toyo R/T 35-12.5 R17 LT Tires on stock 2016 Rebel without any rubbing issues, lift kit or level kit. The Toyo R/T is a new compound that is an upgrade over the stock Toyo A/T. It was just released a couple months ago & it's an aggressive looking tire that doesn't give you the hassles of an M/T offroad's noise, unbalance & fast tread wear.

A simple, easy & inexpensive mod to the Rebel Air ride system will be required to do the 35" tire swap. More details are in this thread:
http://www.ramrebelforum.com/forum/appearance-body/2657-body-lifts.html



No suspension component contact & plenty of travel


Close in the rear of driver side front on a full lock turn to the right, but nothing of concern as it's only plastic liner that, worst case scenario can be heated with heat gun & massaged back.




Drives & steers like stock, these tires are better than the stock A/T's IMO

 

[kryptic4l]

looks really good. keep up the good work, so I can live precariously through you until oil prices rebound.

 

[seeareeff]

Very nice!

 

[JimInPa]

Awesome!!! What mode do you have the air ride in the photo?

 

[Roomraider]

Normal mode w/ "sweet spot" height sensor mod is the current height config.
Offroad mode is now too firm for daily driving but still goes to normal mode @ 25 mph.

 

[muskymike1]

Looking good. Whats next?

 

[Roomraider]

Looking good. Whats next?

Tint, 10" rims, powdercoat the silver front skid plate matte black, Coastaltech Lockpick for Uconnect, Mopar roof mounted running lights, Blackout Tail lights & Center Cab/Cargo brake light, LED light bar in bumper & on & on & on.

 

[test123]

nice, looks great. thats a tight clearance though. new tires already and getting 10'' wheels?

 

[JimInPa]

powdercoat the silver front skid plate matte black

I am looking forward to seeing pics of this. I am on the fence about doing mine.

 

[44stevenson]

Would you put your exact directions on what you did with the links?

 

[Roomraider]

I am looking forward to seeing pics of this. I am on the fence about doing mine.

Someone on the forum, I don't remember who, did a photoshop. I'll look through the threads: Here it is http://www.ramrebelforum.com/forum/appearance-body/2505-grille-mods-ideas.html

Would you put your exact directions on what you did with the links?

This is the link to what was done is here:"Body lifts?" keep in mind, it started out as an idea & evolved into a resolution, so you'll have to read through thread to the end.

 

[Roomraider]

I am looking forward to seeing pics of this. I am on the fence about doing mine.

Someone on the forum, I don't remember who, did a photoshop. I'll look through the threads: Here it is: http://www.ramrebelforum.com/forum/appearance-body/2505-grille-mods-ideas.html

Would you put your exact directions on what you did with the links?

This is the link to what was done is here: http://www.ramrebelforum.com/forum/appearance-body/2657-body-lifts.html keep in mind, it started out as an idea & evolved into a resolution, so you'll have to read through thread to the end.

 

[carbon8]

Very nice easy mod, I will be doing this same thing when I get home I will just use the bully links for easy future changes but I wanted to ask.

1) Normal mode will now operate 1" above OE off-road, and off road will be 2" above OE setting what are the min and max rang of the air suspension I would imagine this is getting into the upper most elongation and would reduce their life cycle.

2) Can you confirm that all OE suspension geometry is still within spec, or will ball joints be under excessive stress.

3) Can you confirm that with this mode if the truck does go into aero or entry/exit what kind of damages will be the result from 35's?

Other than that just an alignment and it's good to go.

 

[Roomraider]

Very nice easy mod, I will be doing this same thing when I get home I will just use the bully links for easy future changes but I wanted to ask.

1) Normal mode will now operate 1" above OE off-road, and off road will be 2" above OE setting what are the min and max rang of the air suspension I would imagine this is getting into the upper most elongation and would reduce their life cycle.

2) Can you confirm that all OE suspension geometry is still within spec, or will ball joints be under excessive stress.

3) Can you confirm that with this mode if the truck does go into aero or entry/exit what kind of damages will be the result from 35's?

Other than that just an alignment and it's good to go.

1) This is correct as you stated. There's still another inch past the new OFFROAD mode using the measurements I provided, this is the max inflation of both front & rear, if you adjust the links into this range, the systems fail-safe will kick in to protect itself from over inflation & the pcm gets wacky, confusing mode for mode, suspension will be so stiff @ this point, there will be zero travel & the truck will just bounce all over the place, not to mention auto load leveling we become null & void.

Yes, I can see how this will cause future problems, that's why I recommended the ideal mode to use, will be normal mode or below, no matter how tempting, I will not use OFFROAD mode, the whole idea was to get the Rebel to stay in "factory Offroad height in normal mode" without the mph limitation, this is achieved safely & reliably with the given measurements. Being able to utilize 35" tires is a bonus.

2) With the measurements I posted, my Ram dealership alignment fell right into spec in normal mode, "camber spec/ball joints" were in the upper limits of Ram specs, but right on none the less. If the ball joints are under stress, alignment to Ram spec becomes impossible.

3) Keep in mind, every mode will be taller now, even Entry/Exit.
I posted earlier that I would not be testing the other modes w/ 35's because I was so happy with the new Normal mode, but curiosity made me do it. There was extreme rubbing of the inner plastic fender well behind the drivers side tire when turned to the left, but no damage to anything while switching to the modes below Normal mode. I believe 35's will fit this truck with the oem normal height without modding the links, but will require trimming on the drivers side & look really stupid with a wheel well full of rubber & little gap between the fender & tire.

 

[44stevenson]

I just tried this MOD and it was easy. Tips and instructions for anyone doing it: All you need is some needle nose pliers and channel locks and some WD-40. First I lowered it into AERO mode, by lowering it into entry mode then raising it up one level. Then I sprayed the link ends with the WD40. I pried off the ends using the needle nose pliers on the end connected to the sensor first since it was so flimsy and then the frame side was super easy. Of course then swap the links from front to rear and vice versa. I used the channel locks when connecting the rod on the sensors end since it was so flimsy to pop the rod end on, then the frame end which was very easy.

After starting the vehicle and letting it raise itself to the new level, I got 2.25" lift on the front in Aero mode compared to Normal mode while stock and 2.5" in the rear. I drove the vehicle around in Aero mode and it seemed to ride fine, but was a little stiff for my and my wife's liking so I went back to stock and I'm just going to go with the expensive lift so I don't give up any ride quality.

 

[Tde0411]

Anyone just tried wheel spacers with the stock rims and 35's? To me it looks like the issue is the front inside wheel clearance during turns. I think even in aero mode you still have room for 35's. Bought some wheel spacers the other day... Gonna give them a shot with 35's

 

[Roomraider]

 

[A5 HEMI]

What's wrong with wheel spacers?

 

[RAMageddon]

As long as they are the bolt on type then I don't see the problem with them, but i'm in for hearing about any downsides.

 

[Delta]

Roomraider you are the true Rebel pioneer!! pop that cherry yeeaaa